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Left waterfall ramp magnetic sensor false-triggers on its own (vibration)

Assignee: UnassignedStatus: FixedSeverity: MajorMedium priority
Tim FroehlichOwner

The switch/opto on the left waterfall ramp is registering as triggered continuously (phantom/constant hits).

Suggested troubleshooting (from the Cactus Canyon Remake owner community on Pinside):
1. Enter switch test and tap/pound around the playfield to confirm which switch is registering.
2. First and easiest: reseat the connector plug on the switch/opto driver board responsible for the left ramp, before removing any ramps — this alone resolves many cases.
3. If the switch changes state when the wires are wiggled side to side, gently reposition the wiring (a pencil to nudge wires forward can help).
4. A constantly-closed or prematurely-triggering switch often points to a cold or cracked solder joint on the switch/opto — inspect and reflow.
5. If it's an opto pair, check for a dirty/failed transmitter-receiver and confirm alignment.

Sources: Cactus Canyon Remake Club and "strange glitches" tech threads on Pinside.

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  1. Tim FroehlichOwner

    Correction: this is a MAGNETIC sensor (reed/hall switch), not an opto — disregard the opto steps in the original description. Revised fix for a magnetic sensor reading constantly closed, cheapest-first:

    1. Switch test: confirm the switch reads constantly closed.
    2. Check for a stray or misplaced magnet / magnetized part near the sensor. A nearby magnet holds a reed switch closed by keeping the reeds attracted together, so a magnet that has shifted or a stuck magnetized ball can pin it on. Remove or relocate it and re-test.
    3. If it still reads closed with no magnet nearby, the reed contacts are likely worn or welded shut (reed switches fail closed with age/current). Replace the reed switch — they are cheap and a common failure.
    4. Also inspect for a cracked/cold solder joint or a pinched/shorted wire on the switch leads, which can also present as constantly closed.
    5. If it is actually a hall-effect sensor board rather than a passive reed, a failed sensor outputs a constant state — replace the sensor board.

    Grounding on reed-switch behavior: Wikipedia "Reed switch" (a nearby magnet completes the circuit; contact wear/welding is the wear-out mode).

  2. Tim Froehlich changed the title "Left waterfall ramp sensor triggering constantly" → "Left waterfall ramp magnetic sensor false-triggers on its own (vibration)"
  3. Tim Froehlich changed frequency Constant → Frequent
  4. Tim FroehlichOwner

    Second correction: the symptom is PHANTOM triggering — the magnetic sensor fires on its own from playfield vibration/shock — not stuck-closed. Disregard the stuck-closed steps above. Revised fix for a reed/magnetic sensor false-triggering from vibration, cheapest-first:

    1. Confirm with the fist test: rap the playfield with your fist. A correctly adjusted switch should NOT register from that vibration. If this switch does, it is set too sensitive / its margin is too small.

    2. Widen the actuation margin (most likely fix). The sensor is tripping on marginal proximity that vibration pushes over the threshold:
    - Passive reed near a magnet: increase the gap / reposition so the reed sits farther from the switching threshold and needs a deliberate ball-driven actuation.
    - If the sensor has a sensitivity potentiometer, turn it clockwise to increase the margin (makes it less sensitive).

    3. Secure loose hardware. A loose reed switch, its bracket, or a nearby magnet that vibrates relative to the others will self-trigger. Tighten the mount and anything adjacent.

    4. Inspect for a cracked/cold solder joint or an intermittent wire/connector on the switch leads. Vibration flexes a marginal joint and momentarily makes contact = phantom hit. Reflow the joints and reseat the connector.

    5. If adjustment cannot get enough margin: boost magnet strength or switch to a latching reed; an RC filter (~10k ohm + 100nF) across the output smooths electrical spikes. A worn/aged reed (vibration shortens their life sharply) should just be replaced.

    Sources: Flippers.be switch-adjustment 101 (fist test; too-sensitive switches phantom-fire from bumper vibration); electroglobal.in reed-switch vibration guide (widen margin via pot, boost magnet, RC filter, latching reed).

  5. Tim FroehlichOwner

    Resolved: reseating the connector on the magnetic sensor fixed the false-triggering. The intermittent phantom hits were a bad/loose connection at the connector, not a too-sensitive switch or dead reed. Closing as fixed.

  6. Tim Froehlich changed status New → Fixed

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StatusFixed
SeverityMajor
PriorityMedium
FrequencyFrequent
AssigneeUnassigned
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Tim Froehlich
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